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What is this, prison? Is no one allowed to have fun here?

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Sep. 3rd, 2006 at 4:33 PM

Her?

NRAMA: Given that this is the iconic interpretation of Barbara as Batgirl, she’s doing this because she can, and it will be fun, right?

GJ: That’s a lot of it, but there’s more to her motivation than that. Why does she need this outlet of fun?

The human drive for novelty? No? OK.

NRAMA: But what’s at the root of her doing it? What’s the motivation to do this, frankly, rather risky thing?

GJ: It has a lot to do with her having a father who’s obsessed with Batman, who turns on a big signal and talks to him on the roof. A dad who now comes home in the morning, because he’s been fighting costumed maniacs with Batman all night. Her trophies from Junior High and High School have been moved off the mantle and a mock up of Batman’s utility belt is there as an ongoing problem and challenge for Gordon to try and figure out how it works.

Our story is going to about a girl who is in the shadow of Batman in a lot of different ways, and trying to come out of it.

By dressing up like and naming herself after him.

NRAMA: And becoming Batgirl is, in a way, her means of connecting with and talking to her father…

GJ: In a way.

This is the emoest fucking thing I have heard in days.

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exitwounds wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 08:45 pm (UTC)

dear DC: PLZ let us do all star elongated man. it'd work great! hallucinogens are great story builders, far better than anything you are gonna come up with.

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birdsflying wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC)

:brushes bangs over eyes, slit wrists: oh gods, the emo, it burns.

So apparently, Babs can't be a strong woman who wants to try to help make gotham a better place, she's merely trying to connect to the men in her life. Right. That's us told then.

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dryponder wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 11:21 pm (UTC)

i imagine i'll like the book, but here's hoping they find out barbara is stronger than this. she took on a emblem for justice and put herself at risk to turn the danger back upon the criminals of gotham. she's not doing it just to make her daddy proud. she's not five years old.

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morchades wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC)

I think it's jumping the gun to say that's the point of the WHOLE thing. I seem to recall him saying that Hal Jordan's father would factor into Hal's motivation in Green Lantern, and while that's there, it's really not that overwhelming. It's parental influence. Every superhero has it.

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jarodrussell wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 09:22 pm (UTC)

This from the man who creates a sullen introvert in loving memory of his outgoing, socially minded sister.

Emo isn't a thing for him, it's a branding mechanism.

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morchades wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 09:31 pm (UTC)

You are obviously not reading the same Stargirl I've been...

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jlg1 wrote:

Sep. 3rd, 2006 09:50 pm (UTC)

And makes the Titans, a team supposed to be like a closely-knit family and an open training ground for teen heroes, into a broken group of dysfunctional grousing and angsting heroes who can't keep things together and regularly go through hell. Tim and Cassie are all messed up and angsting with the cloning and the kiss, Kid Devil's morose with the Blue Devil thing (signing an autograph with "Blue Devil sucks?"), Rose is trying to escape from Deathstroke's shadow and acting like a stereotypical "Bad Girl", Beast Boy's been through hell from being in charge in IC and 52 and is beat down from leader to Doom Patrol member. What's Red Star doing when we see him? He's angsting over how the Titans screwed over him, his love Pantha, his three-year old kid Wildebeest, and other Titans and failed them, and how it sucks to be a Titan (and were we supposed to be agreeing with him?). It's weird for all these criticisms of how awful the Titans are to be made when most of those examples where done by... the same people making the complaints.

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teh_no wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 12:30 am (UTC)

So... they're trying to top Batgirl: Year One? Good luck, gents. Really. I mean that.

Her trophies from Junior High and High School have been moved off the mantle and a mock up of Batman’s utility belt is there as an ongoing problem and challenge for Gordon to try and figure out how it works.

Ummm... is Gordon gay for Batman or just mentally retarded? Dude, why don't you keep the reminders of your only daughter's accomplishments right there where you can see them and put the damn belt in your fucking desk where your work goes? ARGH.

And I thought Frank Miller had said this when I first saw it. I'm a little disappointed he didn't. At least he has the whole W... H... WHORESWHORESWHORES thing. What's Johns' excuse?

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tarpit05 wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 02:06 am (UTC)

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Yes, there is a perfectly good explanation for why I dress up as a bat.

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brown_betty wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 07:22 am (UTC)

…wow. Way to make Babs seem really creepy.

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(Anonymous) wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC)

... I thought being Batgirl was about proving herself as a detective when she wasn't allowed to try it?

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buggery wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 04:32 pm (UTC)

The internets are making my feminist rage bust out all OVER today. If current trends continue, I'll be finding a way Steve "Crocodile Hunter" Irwin's death pisses off my inner feminist by tea-time...

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heykidzcomix wrote:

Sep. 4th, 2006 08:11 pm (UTC)

It's a metaphor on...uh...homophobia. The phallic stingray barb pierces a man's heart and kills him dead, thus preserving the status quo (i.e., dicks do not belong in ventricles). That stingray is the Fred Phelps of marine life!

What else has been squeezing the rage out of you?

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